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 ====== EVO: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-04G ====== ====== EVO: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-04G ======
-====== Pics and Information on 1986-2003 Sportster Oil Tanks ======+====== Pics and Information on 2004-2009 Sportster Oil Tanks ====== 
 +See also in the Sportsterpedia;​ \\ 
 +….. *[[techtalk:​evo:​oil04#​oil_line_routing|1986-Up Oil Line Routing]] \\ 
 +….. *[[techtalk:​evo:​elec02m#​pics_and_information_on_stock_evo_battery_trays_and_parts|Pics and Information on stock EVO Battery Trays and Parts]] 
 + 
 +**Note: These tanks are prone to leaking and / or bursting**. \\ 
 +[[techtalk:​ref:​oil20#​up_oil_tank_leak_issue|Click Here]] for more in formation on 2004-Up Oil Tank Leak Issues. \\ 
 +\\ 
 + 
 +In 2004, the MoCo started using plastic oil tanks. \\ 
 +There were two factory installed versions, 04-06 (62888-04) and 07-09 (62888-04A) for all models except XR1200/​XR1200X. \\ 
 +XR1200 and XR1200X models use tank 2007-2009 tank (62888-08) and 2010-2013 tank (62888-08A). \\ 
 +The 04-09 oil tank versions share the same basic setups as the oil tank and electrical junction box (that is vulnerable to moisture). ((Bone of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​146231-ka-boom-oil-tank/​page4?​t=1587844&​highlight=62954-10&​page=4)) \\ 
 +The EFI bikes use up more space in the junction box, having an additional relay and more fuses?). \\ 
 +The 07-09 tank has a less restrictive cavity in the top section than the 04-09 tank to allow more free flowing air back to the cam chest. \\ 
 + 
 +Late 2009, they came out with an upgrade version (62888-04B) with a 10 PSI pressure relief valve in the top of the tank, right side. \\ 
 +The -04B tank fits 2004-2009 Sportsters and also has a less restrictive vent tube configuration inside the tank. \\ 
 +However, the -04B has now been obsoleted as well.. \\ 
 + 
 +The 2010-2013 oil tank (62954-10) will fit 2004-2009 models (except XR1200/​XR1200X) and it also has the 10psi relief valve. ((Captain Johnny of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/​205256-oil-tank#​post4647082)). \\ 
 +The hose fitting locations changed again so you'll have to reroute the hoses to use this tank on 2004-2009 models. ​  
 + 
 +Click on any pic below to enlarge: \\ 
 +|  2007-2009 Sportster Oil Tank (62888-04A) ((photos by Ebay seller, rileysusedmotorcycleparts,​ store: [[https://​www.ebay.com/​str/​RileysMotorcycleParts?​_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Ebay store link:]] and [[https://​www.ebay.com/​itm/​Harley-Sportster-1200-Low-XL1200L-2007-Oil-Tank-Pan/​254870990156?​epid=1223284928&​hash=item3b577ead4c:​g:​LKsAAOSw0KJgLSiN|Auction link on date of posting]] ))  |||  
 +|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2007-2009_sportster_oil_tank_62888-04a_pic1_by_americanbikestrippers.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2007-2009_sportster_oil_tank_62888-04a_pic2_by_americanbikestrippers.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2007-2009_sportster_oil_tank_62888-04a_pic3_by_americanbikestrippers.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +|  2004-2009 Oil Tank Upgrade (62888-04B) ((photos by npaisnel of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/​37658-new-oil-tank/​page3?​t=74331&​page=3)) ​ ||| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​04-09_xl_oil_tank_62888-04b_pic1_by_npaisnel.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​04-09_xl_oil_tank_62888-04b_pic2_by_npaisnel.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​04-09_xl_oil_tank_62888-04b_pic3_by_npaisnel.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 +|  More Oil Tank (62888-04B) Pics ((photos courtesy of BIKERSNOS.com. [[https://​www.ebay.com/​str/​bikersnos?​_trksid=p2047675.m3561.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] ))  ||| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2004-2009_sportster_oil_tank_upgrade_62888-04b_pic1_by_bikersnos.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2004-2009_sportster_oil_tank_upgrade_62888-04b_pic2_by_bikersnos.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2004-2009_sportster_oil_tank_upgrade_62888-04b_pic3_by_bikersnos.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +|  2007 1200C with 2010-2013 Oil Tank ((Pics by Captain Johnny of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/​205256-oil-tank#​post4647082)) ​ ||| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2007_1200c_with_2010-2013_oil_tank_pic1_by_captain_johnny.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2007_1200c_with_2010-2013_oil_tank_pic2_by_captain_johnny.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​2007_1200c_with_2010-2013_oil_tank_pic3_by_captain_johnny.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +====== Oil Cap ====== 
 +\\ 
 +===== 04+ Oil Cap ===== 
 +These can be stubborn to turn all the way. You can use a little silicone lube on the O-ring to help it turn without binding. \\ 
 +Also a leather glove for grip helps. ((JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix/​page4?​t=1566307&​page=4)) \\ 
 +The threading tabs in the tank are molded in. \\ 
 + 
 +When installing the cap, it may stop at the first "​bite"​ and not go any farther. The plastic cap has a void underneath which gives no support. \\ 
 +If the cap is difficult to turn in, it may have been inserted in the wrong position. \\ 
 +First, try to remove it and make sure the tab orientation is correct before re-inserting it in the tank (else it won't turn all the way '​home'​ and seal off the tank). \\ 
 + 
 +The metal cap with the analog gauge moves better as it is solid underneath the rim. \\ 
 + 
 +The pics below show the positions of the cap during installation.:​ 
 +|This shows the broader of the 2 locating pegs in the \\ oil tank. ((photo by harley506d of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix/​page5?​t=1566307&​page=5))|This shows where the gauge is to start with. ((photo by harley506d of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix/​page5?​t=1566307&​page=5))| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​installing_oil_tank_cap_1_by_harley506d.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​installing_oil_tank_cap_2_by_harley506d.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +|This shows the point of "first bite". ((photo by harley506d of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix/​page5?​t=1566307&​page=5))|This shows final location. ((photo by harley506d of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix/​page5?​t=1566307&​page=5))| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​installing_oil_tank_cap_3_by_harley506d.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​installing_oil_tank_cap_4_by_harley506d.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +====== Oil Cap Repair ====== 
 + 
 +===== 04 Style Oil Cap Repair ===== 
 +Article by JohnK of the XLFORUM ((https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307)) \\ 
 + 
 +If you've noticed your oil cap mysteriously popping up, it could be a broken internal sleeve. \\ 
 +One of the first symptoms is that the cap will not stay flush, but will protrude maybe an eighth of an inch above the tank surface. \\ 
 +Eventually it will not click down in place at all. \\ 
 +Take a close look just under the cap, where the plunger enters the body. \\ 
 +The black sleeve protruding above the grey body (in the right side arrow in the 1st pic below) may indicate a broken sleeve. \\ 
 + 
 +|The sleeve should be flush around the perimeter as \\ shown by the left side arrow. ((photo by JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307))|To disassemble,​ find the two side square tabs and \\ push each one in, and the mechanism will pop out \\ under spring pressure. ((photo by JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307))| This is what you will have, notice the ratchet spring \\ on the side, note how it fits for re-assembly later. ((photo by JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307))| 
 +|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​oil_cap_repair_1_by_johnk.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​oil_cap_repair_2_by_johnk.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​oil_cap_repair_3_by_johnk.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +Now take a look at the bottom of the '​sleeve'​. \\ 
 +It should be one piece. \\ 
 +The two halves are held together by two very thin sections of plastic on the bottom (as in the circled areas below). \\ 
 +In this case, the sleeve was broken into two pieces. \\ 
 + 
 +The locking tabs are both on one half of the sleeve, the other side is free to slide inside the body. \\ 
 +As long as the sleeve is joined together in one piece that's fine. \\ 
 +But the bottom thin section is prone to cracking. \\ 
 +(one side is locked and the other moves up and down ever so slightly each time the cap is popped) \\ 
 +Once this fails, the '​loose'​ side will protrude up as seen in the first pic above. \\ 
 +The side without the locking tabs is also the side with the ratchet spring. \\ 
 +(which adds additional up and down drag every time the mechanism is worked, accelerating the failure) \\ 
 + 
 +|The thin connecting material was broken out. ((photo by JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307))|Here are all the components, minus the broken out \\ pieces. The sleeve is now in two halves. ((photo by JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307))|Note the locking tabs on one half of the sleeve and \\ none on the other. ((photo by JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307))|  
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 + 
 +The solution was to re-assemble the mechanism and install a set-screw to hold the loose side in place. \\ 
 + 
 +The entire operation shouldn'​t take more than an hour, if you take your time. \\ 
 +The only items required are a small screwdriver to push in the locking tabs, a set screw, an appropriate drill bit and drill. \\ 
 +You can find a small flat head screw, countersink the hole and drive the screw head flush for a better-than original look and function. \\ 
 +{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​oil_cap_repair_1_by_samjmm.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by samjmm of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix/​page4?​t=1566307&​page=4)) \\ 
 + 
 +Below, a brass screw from an electrical lug was used to screw through the grey plastic body and into the black inner sleeve. \\ 
 +It was short enough not to interfere with the moving plunger while long enough to screw through the grey plastic body to the sleeve. \\ 
 +Find a way to hold the sleeve down flush with the outer body and drill a hole slightly smaller than the screw thread. \\ 
 +Drill it right through both the body and sleeve. \\ 
 +It can be done with the plunger installed but it would be better to leave it out. \\ 
 +Drive the screw into the plastic, it will cut its own thread (that'​s why you drill a smaller pre-drill size hole). \\ 
 + 
 +|Finished product. ((photo by JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307))|Here'​s what it looks like from the inside. The spot for this particle drilled hole put the screw partially in the slot, \\ which would have nullified the fix. A smarter choice would have been into one of the lugs as indicated below. ((photos by JohnK of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​144466-does-your-oil-filler-cap-pop-out-here-s-a-cheap-and-easy-fix?​t=1566307))|| ​  
 +|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​oil_cap_repair_7_by_johnk.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​oil_cap_repair_8_by_johnk.jpg?​direct&​300|}}|{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​oil_cap_repair_9_by_johnk.jpg?​direct&​300|}}| 
 + 
 +===== 07 Style Oil Cap with Homemade Temperature Gauge ===== 
 +Article by ridinfool of the XLFORUM ((https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399)) 
 + 
 +Sometimes you have to be innovative to save some cash. \\ 
 +This oil temp gauge was devised for about $20 as opposed to the $45 one from the MoCo. \\ 
 + 
 +{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​07_up_homemade_oil_temp_cap_7_by_ridinfool.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by ridinfool of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399)) {{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​07_up_homemade_oil_temp_cap_8_by_ridinfool.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by ridinfool of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399)) 
 + 
 +Parts & Tools: \\ 
 +One meat thermometer either instant read dial or digit read. \\ 
 +Some JB Weld. \\ 
 +Drill / bit. 
 + 
 +Take the oil cap apart as shown below. \\ 
 +Then cut the dipstick off flush with bottom of the cap. \\ 
 + 
 +{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​07_up_homemade_oil_temp_cap_1_by_ridinfool.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by ridinfool https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399)) {{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​07_up_homemade_oil_temp_cap_2_by_ridinfool.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by ridinfool of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399)) {{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​07_up_homemade_oil_temp_cap_3_by_ridinfool.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by ridinfool of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399)) 
 + 
 +Drill a hole just a bit smaller than the thermometer rod through the center so it fits snug. \\ 
 +Then drill a hole through the top of the oil cap. \\ 
 +Going through the bottom, there is a plastic piece that guides the drill bit. \\ 
 +Slide the meat thermometer in place with some JB weld on the bottom of it so it stays in place. \\ 
 +(make sure not to get the JB Weld on the rod itself as it needs to go up and down with the oil cap) \\ 
 + 
 +{{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​07_up_homemade_oil_temp_cap_4_by_ridinfool.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by ridinfool of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399)) {{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​07_up_homemade_oil_temp_cap_5_by_ridinfool.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by ridinfool of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399)) {{:​techtalk:​evo:​oil:​07_up_homemade_oil_temp_cap_6_by_ridinfool.jpg?​direct&​300|}} ((photo by ridinfool of the XLFORUM https://​www.xlforum.net/​forum/​sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/​102000-fools-homemade-oil-temp-gauge?​t=887399))
  
  
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