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 My front forks (1994 XLH Std) were in need of rebuilding. So I purchased all the wearable parts and disassembled both front forks. I replaced all these parts and put new fluid in the forks - I used a no-name ATF for the fork oil, it being about 5-10wt oil. My front forks (1994 XLH Std) were in need of rebuilding. So I purchased all the wearable parts and disassembled both front forks. I replaced all these parts and put new fluid in the forks - I used a no-name ATF for the fork oil, it being about 5-10wt oil.
  
-At the same time, I replaced my stock fork springs with the Progressive 11-1527 springs. This spring kit is designated for rubbermount models, but the spring specs match for 91-later models ​as well. But the spacer needed to be shortened.+At the same time, I replaced my stock fork springs with the Progressive 11-1527 springs. This spring kit is designated for rubbermount models, but the spring specs match for 88-later models ​with 39mm tubes. But the spacer needed to be shortened.
  
-The XLForum Thread about this is [[http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2006111|HERE]] by IXL2Relax.+The XLForum Thread about this is [[https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/​188361-progressive-fork-springs-11-1527?​t=2006111|HERE]] by IXL2Relax.
  
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 **The company specs & my measurments for this kit:**\\ **The company specs & my measurments for this kit:**\\
-==========================================================\\ +| Progressive Front Fork Springs || | The Progressive Suspension Catalog for 2007 shows the same\\ spring specs for the following kits. Only the spacer lengths differ. ​
-Progressive Front Fork Springs - 11-1527 - Information\\ +| Factory Specs: - Kit# 11-1527 - Bought Used || ::: | ::: 
-==========================================================\\ +| Free Length | 18.50" (470mm) | ::: | Kit# 11-1130 has a 1.00" Spacer) - For 88-93 Std and 88-91 Hugger ​| 
-| Progressive Front Fork Springs || +| Spring OD | 1.20" (30mm) | ::: | Kit# 11-1523 has a 2.00" Spacer) - For 94-03 Std and 92-03 Hugger ​| 
-| Factory Specs: - Kit# 11-1527 - Bought Used || +| Rate lbs/in | 35/50 (.63/.89 Kg/mm) | ::: | Kit# 11-1132 has a 2.40" Spacer) ​| 
-| Free Length | 18.50" (470mm) | +| Spacer Length | 3.00" | ::: | Kit# 11-1527 has a 3.00" Spacer) - For 04-07 All Models ​| 
-| Spring OD | 1.20" (30mm) | +| || ::: | Kit# 11-1124 has a 3.50" Spacer) ​| 
-| Rate lbs/in | 35/50 (.63/.89 Kg/mm) | +| My Measurements:​|| ::: | Kit# 11-1129 has NO Spacer) ​| 
-| Spacer Length | 3.00" | +| Coil Wire Dia. | .195" | ::: | I have not actually measured any of the other kits, but if they\\ include the same spring with simply different length spacers,​\\ ​you could buy (new or used) any of these kits & then make\\ your own PVC spacer ​to fit your forks. ​| 
-| || +| Length of Tight Winding | 4.460" | ::: | ::: | 
-| My Measurements:|+| # of coils Tightly Wound | 18 | ::: | ::: | 
-| Coil Wire Dia. | .195" | +| Length of Loose Winding | 14.040"​ | ::: | Since the 11-1527 kit came with 3" spacers, I had to cut them\\ down to 2" spacers to be right for my 1994 model. | 
-| Length of Tight Winding | 4.460" | +| # of coils Loosely Wound | 38 | ::: | ::: |
-| # of coils Tightly Wound | 18 | +
-| Length of Loose Winding | 14.040"​ | +
-| # of coils Loosely Wound | 38 | +
-==========================================================\\ +
-Based on the listings in the Progressive Suspension Catalog for 2007\\ +
-the following kits have the same factory specs as the 11-1527 kit. +
-Kit# 11-1130 has a 1.00" Spacer) - For 88-93 Std and 88-91 Hugger\\ +
-Kit# 11-1523 has a 2.00" Spacer) - For 94-03 Std and 92-03 Hugger\\ +
-Kit# 11-1132 has a 2.40" Spacer)\\ +
-Kit# 11-1527 has a 3.00" Spacer) - For 04-07 All Models\\ +
-Kit# 11-1124 has a 3.50" Spacer)\\ +
-Kit# 11-1129 has NO Spacer)\\ +
-(I have not actually measured any of the other kits, but if they\\ +
-include the same spring with simply different length spacers, ​you\\ +
-could buy any of these kits that were offered for a good price &\\ +
-then make your own spacer ​for your own forks. ​A possibility?​)\\ +
-==========================================================\\+
  
 Some notes from my install - I have learned much from the XLForum - The following tips were especially helpful: Some notes from my install - I have learned much from the XLForum - The following tips were especially helpful:
  
-1) Loosen (not remove) the Damper Bolts while the forks are still on the bike & under spring tension +1) Loosen (not remove) the Damper Bolts while the forks are still on the bike & under spring tension\\ 
-2) Use a 1-1/2" PVC coupling for the fork seal driver +2) Use a 1-1/2" PVC coupling for the fork seal driver\\ 
-3) Align the fork cap on the slider tube (no springs installed) and mark the exact point (on both the cap and the slider) where the threads begin to engage - This tip was extremely helpful in getting the cap back on while compressing the spring+3) Align the fork cap on the slider tube (no springs installed) and mark the exact point (on both the cap and the slider) where the threads begin to engage - This tip was extremely helpful in getting the cap back on while compressing the spring\\
  
 The stock springs stuck out of the extended fork slider by 1-3/​8"​\\ The stock springs stuck out of the extended fork slider by 1-3/​8"​\\
 The 1527 kit spacer stuck out of the extended fork slider by 1-1/​4"​\\ The 1527 kit spacer stuck out of the extended fork slider by 1-1/​4"​\\
-... (that included the spring, washer & 3" ​spacer)\\+... (that included the spring, washer & spacer which was 3.00" ​long x 1.054" OD (.813" ID))\\
  
-The spacer included with the springs was 3.00" long x 1.054" in dia (ID .813"​). +The damper bolts in the rebuild kit I bought ​(Bikers Choice Fork Seal Kit) had heads that were too long to clear the axle opening in the right leg - When fully inserted, the bolt head stuck out into the axle cavity. The existing bolt heads were .509" in dia & .237" thick - the new ones were .518" in dia & .312" thick. When I tried a new one in the left leg, it fit OK. But I opted to use both the old bolts (thoroughly cleaned) with the new copper washers.
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-The damper bolts in the rebuild kit (Bikers Choice Fork Seal Kit) had heads that were too long to clear the axle opening in the right leg - When fully inserted, the bolt head stuck out into the axle cavity. The existing bolt heads were .509" in dia & .237" thick - the new ones were .518" in dia & .312" thick. When I tried a new one in the left leg, it fit OK. But I opted to use both the old bolts (thoroughly cleaned) with the new copper washers.+
  
 Someone had put silicone up into the damper bolt holes (presumably to stop a leak) - what a mess. It took me an hour of scraping with a flat-blade screwdriver to clean that stuff out of the bolt hole and the surrounding area. The new copper washers crushed & sealed the bolt holes just as they should. Someone had put silicone up into the damper bolt holes (presumably to stop a leak) - what a mess. It took me an hour of scraping with a flat-blade screwdriver to clean that stuff out of the bolt hole and the surrounding area. The new copper washers crushed & sealed the bolt holes just as they should.