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====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ====== | ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication ====== | ||
====== Remote Oil Filters ====== | ====== Remote Oil Filters ====== | ||
- | The stock oil filter (HD 63782-80T) is the small one that is usually used on custom bikes. Chrome or black can be found. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=563241)) \\ | + | The stock oil filter (HD 63782-80T) is the small one that is usually used on custom bikes. Chrome or black can be found. ((IronMick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241)) \\ |
However, it is also commonly known that the more oil you hold, the more motor heat can be transferred to dissipate that heat. \\ | However, it is also commonly known that the more oil you hold, the more motor heat can be transferred to dissipate that heat. \\ | ||
- | Race bikes have huge oil tanks for that reason. ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=563241)) \\ | + | Race bikes have huge oil tanks for that reason. ((Monte03 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/78212-67-ironhead-oil-routing?t=563241)) \\ |
If you go the filter route, be sure to purge the lines by bleeding the pump front nipple first while running. \\ | If you go the filter route, be sure to purge the lines by bleeding the pump front nipple first while running. \\ | ||
Then take the return line and place it into a pail before you connect to the barb tank fitting so you assure a complete circle has been made. | Then take the return line and place it into a pail before you connect to the barb tank fitting so you assure a complete circle has been made. | ||
====== Plumbing to Oil Filter ====== | ====== Plumbing to Oil Filter ====== | ||
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**Note**: On all spin on oil filters, dirty oil goes in the outside of the filter. Clean oil comes out the center. (( ryder rick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5643382&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5643382)) \\ | **Note**: On all spin on oil filters, dirty oil goes in the outside of the filter. Clean oil comes out the center. (( ryder rick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5643382&highlight=oil+filter+bracket#post5643382)) \\ | ||
- | If you are not sure, start the motor momentarily with the filter off and if oil is pumped out the center port, you have it backwards. \\ | + | If you are not sure, start the motor momentarily with the filter off and if oil is pumped out the center port, you have it backwards. |
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+ | ====== In-Tank to External Spin-on Filter Conversion and Plumbing for Ironheads ====== | ||
+ | The 1978 parts catalog lists an external oil filter kit (63795-77) for 77-78 models. Filter mounts on an (included) chrome left lower front motor mount (similar to the 82-E84 mount). \\ | ||
+ | Also in the kit is a chrome oil filter (63796- 77A), hose fitting (63792-77), length of hose, 3 hose clamps (9946) and 3 cable straps. \\ | ||
+ | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_kit_63795-77_pic1_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_kit_63795-77_pic2_by_jrsvintageharley1990.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Ebay seller, jrs vintage harley parts. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/jrsvintageharleyparts?_trksid=p2047675.l2563|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | ||
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+ | Simplified drawings showing the different routing of lines for 1957 to 1978 Sportsters while removing the (in-tank) oil filter. \\ | ||
+ | Click on a drawing or pic to enlarge. \\ | ||
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+ | {{:techtalk:ref:oil:57-66_xlh_and_58-69_xlch_oil_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:67-76_xlh_and_70-76_xlch_oil_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack_done_w_3d.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) {{:techtalk:ref:oil:77-78_sportster_line_routing_to_oil_filter_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} ((drawing by Hippysmack)) \\ | ||
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====== Parts / Kits ====== | ====== Parts / Kits ====== | ||
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Below is a parts list for a remote oil filter setup although it's not a kit per say; ((HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337)) \\ | Below is a parts list for a remote oil filter setup although it's not a kit per say; ((HolyHandGrenade of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1189337)) \\ | ||
Derale spin-on bypass adapter with dual 1/2" NPT ports. ((https://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/15703/10002/-1)) \\ | Derale spin-on bypass adapter with dual 1/2" NPT ports. ((https://www.jegs.com/i/Derale/259/15703/10002/-1)) \\ | ||
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===== On the left motor mount ===== | ===== On the left motor mount ===== | ||
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The OEM filter is mounted on the lower left front engine mount on 82-E84 models. \\ | The OEM filter is mounted on the lower left front engine mount on 82-E84 models. \\ | ||
This has also been a popular practice on earlier bikes. \\ | This has also been a popular practice on earlier bikes. \\ | ||
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===== Other forward positions ===== | ===== Other forward positions ===== | ||
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| This one sets the filter upside down. ((photos by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611)) || | | This one sets the filter upside down. ((photos by chief of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611)) || | ||
|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_1_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:motor_mount_filter_adapter_2_by_chief.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_1_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_3_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_1_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_-_cooler_3_by_78ironhead.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
- | ====== Rear mounted filters ====== | + | ===== Rear mounted filters ===== |
| Custom built oil filter mount. ((photos by dm4x4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611)) ||| | | Custom built oil filter mount. ((photos by dm4x4 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=897611)) ||| | ||
|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_1_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_2_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:custom_oil_filter_mount_3_by_dm4x4.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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===== Modifying a standard motor mount for use as a oil filter mount ===== | ===== Modifying a standard motor mount for use as a oil filter mount ===== | ||
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* This can be done on the bike but it's easier to remove the motor mount and do the work on the bench. ((bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1266793)) \\ | * This can be done on the bike but it's easier to remove the motor mount and do the work on the bench. ((bustert of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1266793)) \\ | ||
* **Simplified version**: | * **Simplified version**: | ||
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===== Build Your Own Motor / Oil Filter Mount ===== | ===== Build Your Own Motor / Oil Filter Mount ===== | ||
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Article by sifty of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\ | Article by sifty of the XLFORUM ((http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?page=22&t=1592463)) \\ | ||
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|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_16_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_17_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_18_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_16_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_17_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:homemade_oil_filter_mount_18_by_sifty.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | ====== S&S Oil Filter Mount (1986-1990) ====== | ||
+ | This billet oil filter mounting bracket (751510) fits any generator engine with 5/16" generator mounting holes and replaces the OEM 1986-1990 Sportster filter pad. ((https://catalog.zodiac.nl/en/19-oil-tank-filter-line/oil-filter/s-s-oil-filter-mount-5335)) \\ | ||
+ | The oil filter bracket seals off the cam chest and provides a convenient place for a spin-on oil filter. \\ | ||
+ | The bracket is machined for easy routing of an oil cooler in all applications and accepts the stock oil pressure sending switch. \\ | ||
+ | It does not have an oil pressure regulator built into it like the OEM filter pad does. ((A 4 liter V8 eater of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1359577&page=88)) \\ | ||
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+ | | S&S oil filter mount. ((photos by A 4 liter V8 eater of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1359577&page=89)) || | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_mount_sands_1986-1990_pic1_by_a_4_liter_v8_eater.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:oil:oil_filter_mount_sands_1986-1990_pic2_by_a_4_liter_v8_eater.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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