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- | ====== REF: Oiling & Lubrication - Sub-05D ====== | + | ====== REF: Engine Mechanicals - Sub-05D ====== |
====== Converting Head Breathers to Cam Chest Breather ====== | ====== Converting Head Breathers to Cam Chest Breather ====== | ||
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For reference, here are links to those two threads; \\ | For reference, here are links to those two threads; \\ | ||
* Oil Usage [[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59421]] ; | * Oil Usage [[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59421]] ; | ||
- | * New Crankcase Vent [[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658]] \\ See this mod also in the Sportsterpedia: [[techtalk:ref:oil05h#adding_a_vent_between_the_oil_tank_and_the_cam_chest|Adding a Vent Between the Oil Tank and the Cam Chest]]. \\ | + | * New Crankcase Vent [[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=67658]] \\ See this mod also in the Sportsterpedia: [[techtalk:ref:engmech05e#adding_a_vent_between_the_oil_tank_and_the_cam_chest|Adding a Vent Between the Oil Tank and the Cam Chest]]. \\ |
Pre-'91 XLs have the breather vent in the cam cover from the factory located on top of the cover. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=9)) \\ | Pre-'91 XLs have the breather vent in the cam cover from the factory located on top of the cover. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=9)) \\ | ||
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The inline krankvent valve is used as the one way valve. | The inline krankvent valve is used as the one way valve. | ||
- | 88 model with a Krankvent screwed into the factory top 45° outlet in the cover: \\ | + | The pic on the left below shows the 85 breather line coming out at the 10 o'clock position going up to the air cleaner. \\ |
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:spyke_krankvent_on_88_model_by_biknut.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by biknut of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=13)) | + | The pic on the right is an 88 model with a Krankvent screwed into the factory top 45° outlet in the cover: \\ |
+ | {{:techtalk:ih:engmech:85_foofoo_2_by_spamer80.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by spammer80 of the XLFORUM)){{:techtalk:ref:engmech:spyke_krankvent_on_88_model_by_biknut.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by biknut of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=13)) | ||
You can remove the plug and install a hose fitting there in addition to the the vent on the top. \\ | You can remove the plug and install a hose fitting there in addition to the the vent on the top. \\ | ||
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83 model with an extra vent hose installed on the bottom of the cam cover: \\ | 83 model with an extra vent hose installed on the bottom of the cam cover: \\ | ||
The original vent on top is still piped to the air cleaner with no oil entering it. \\ | The original vent on top is still piped to the air cleaner with no oil entering it. \\ | ||
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:83_cam_breather_mod_by_83xlx.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by 83XLX of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ih:engmech:83_xlx_crankcase_vent_mod_by_83xlx.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 83XLX of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=518948&highlight=cam+chest+breather&page=3)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:83_cam_breather_mod_by_83xlx.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by 83XLX of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=5)) {{techtalk:ref:engmech:secondary_breather_vent_by_83xlx.jpeg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 83XLX of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1332902&page=3)) |
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====== Installing the Ultimate Crankcase Vent ====== | ====== Installing the Ultimate Crankcase Vent ====== | ||
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See also [[techtalk:ref:oil10#refoiling_lubrication|Wet Sumping]] in the REF section of the Sportsterpedia. \\ | See also [[techtalk:ref:oil10#refoiling_lubrication|Wet Sumping]] in the REF section of the Sportsterpedia. \\ | ||
+ | **The Deimus Mod**: \\ | ||
This mod was an attempt at venting the newer motors better than the OEM setup. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping)) \\ | This mod was an attempt at venting the newer motors better than the OEM setup. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping)) \\ | ||
It was done to try and solve the problem of oil dripping out the vent hose. \\ | It was done to try and solve the problem of oil dripping out the vent hose. \\ | ||
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| Fabricate an oil baffle. ((photos by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping)) ||| | | Fabricate an oil baffle. ((photos by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping)) ||| | ||
|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_21_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_24_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_26_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_21_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_24_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:04_up_crankcase_vent_26_by_deimus.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
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+ | Alternate way of making the baffle: ((60Gunner of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5763918#post5763918)) \\ | ||
+ | The wings were initially 1" inward each before bending. \\ | ||
+ | While fitting, they were cut back to 1/2" each and the side with the fitting was cut again at about a 1/4" for clearance of the fitting. \\ | ||
+ | This baffle started out with as piece 5"x2" cut sheet metal, bent an inch on each end for the wings. \\ | ||
+ | 5/8" of the bottom of the flaps were cut off. \\ | ||
+ | The cover tapers roughly 45° in and down at that point from there down to bottom. \\ | ||
+ | A Dremel rotary tool was used to round all edges and the corners slightly. \\ | ||
+ | It was tight to the bottom then another 1/8" was cut because it was just flush with the gasket surface (dropped it slightly). \\ | ||
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+ | The baffle should be pretty snug when installed. You should have to lift a little on one side then the other back and forth to remove it. \\ | ||
+ | The sheet metal was bent with my a small hand brake then the flaps were trimmed to fit. \\ | ||
+ | | 26 gauge sheet metal cut 2" wider than the cover length and trimmed for a tight fit. ((photos by 60Gunner of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5763918#post5763918)) ||| | ||
+ | |{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_1_by_60gunner.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_2_by_60gunner.jpg?direct&250|}}|{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_3_by_60gunner.jpg?direct&250|}}| | ||
| Route the hoses and install the Krankvent. ((photos by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping)) ||| | | Route the hoses and install the Krankvent. ((photos by Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping)) ||| | ||
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====== Other pics of this mod from XLF members ====== | ====== Other pics of this mod from XLF members ====== | ||
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+ | ===== Baffle ===== | ||
+ | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_2_by_grind.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by ~Grind~ of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1448694)) \\ | ||
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+ | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_1_by_bassboy311.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by bassboy311 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=6)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_1_by_kirk_the_jerk.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Kirk the Jerk of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=826526)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_2_by_kirk_the_jerk.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Kirk the Jerk of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=826526)) \\ | ||
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+ | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_by_kdog.png?direct&300|}} ((photo by kdog of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1099279&page=5)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_4_by_60gunner.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by 60Gunner of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5763918#post5763918)) | ||
+ | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_5_by_60gunner.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 60Gunner of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5763918#post5763918)) \\ | ||
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+ | ===== Line Routing ===== | ||
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{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_by_grind.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by ~Grind~ of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=20)) | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_by_grind.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by ~Grind~ of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=20)) | ||
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{{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_3_by_willypscustoms.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by willypscustoms of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=17)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_3_by_willypscustoms.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by willypscustoms of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=17)) \\ | ||
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_1_by_bassboy311.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by bassboy311 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=6)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_2_by_bassboy311.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by bassboy311 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=6)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_2_by_bassboy311.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by bassboy311 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=6)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_3_by_bassboy311.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by bassboy311 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=6)){{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_4_by_bassboy311.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by bassboy311 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=6)) \\ |
- | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_3_by_bassboy311.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by bassboy311 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=6)){{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_4_by_bassboy311.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by bassboy311 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=72099&highlight=wet+sumping&page=6)) | + | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_3_by_kirk_the_jerk.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Kirk the Jerk of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=826526)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_4_by_kirk_the_jerk.jpg?direct&200|}} ((photo by Kirk the Jerk of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=826526)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_5_by_kirk_the_jerk.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Kirk the Jerk of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=826526)) \\ |
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+ | {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_6_by_60gunner.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by 60Gunner of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5763918#post5763918)) {{:techtalk:ref:engmech:deimus_mod_8_by_60gunner.jpg?direct&350|}} ((photo by 60Gunner of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5763918#post5763918)) \\ | ||
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