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techtalk:ref:engctl01e [2019/05/09 22:42]
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techtalk:ref:engctl01e [2023/08/07 19:43] (current)
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 ====== A Neat Timing Trick ====== ====== A Neat Timing Trick ======
 +The procedure is here at Wild West Cycle.com ((http://​www.wildwestcycle.com/​f_timingtrick.html)) \\
  
 +<​blockquote>​It basically amounts to adding a TDC mark on the timing cup rather than on the flywheel. ((aswracing of the XLFORUM http://​xlforum.net/​forums/​showthread.php?​p=4018569&​highlight=upgraded+crank+timing+mark#​post4018569)) \\
 +In theory that works fine. \\
 +One thing to be aware of, though, is that dial-back timing lights and dual-fire ignitions on Harleys don't always get along. \\
 +Dual fire was stock on bikes that have timing cups. \\
 +The way a dial back light works is that it looks at the rpm of the engine based on the interval between firing pulses. \\
 +Knowing the rpm, it can calculate how much time equals how many degrees of crank rotation, and delay it's strobe appropriately based on where you've got the dial set. \\
 +You then use the TDC mark instead of the advance mark. \\
 +In most four stroke motors, you get one firing pulse every 720 degrees of crank rotation. \\
 +This is what the dial-back light is expecting to see, and it bases it's rpm calculation and strobe delay on it. \\
  
 +Well, in a dual fire Harley motor, you get two sparks every 720 degrees of crank rotation, the real spark and the wasted spark. \\
 +What's worse, they don't even come at even intervals: 405 degrees followed by 315 degrees followed by 405 degrees, ad infinitum. \\
 +It confuses the hell out of a dial-back light, and really makes it's answer untrustworthy. \\
 +If you're lucky, your light will filter the uneven interval and average the two. \\
 +But you still have a 2X rpm assumption, which is going to mean you'd have to dial in twice as much timing as you actually want. \\
 +I've seen people try to do it but using a dial back light on a dual fire HD is just a bad plan. \\
 +It works fine if you've upgraded to single-fire,​ though.
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