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| - | ====== IH: Engine Control - Sub-03F ====== | + | ====== IH: Electrical System - Sub-03F ====== |
| ====== Pics and Info of Speedometers and Tachometers Per Year Model ====== | ====== Pics and Info of Speedometers and Tachometers Per Year Model ====== | ||
| + | See also in the Sportsterpedia; \\ | ||
| + | *……………….. [[techtalk:ih:elec08|Ironhead - Stock Wiring Schematic Drawings (created with reference to the OEM manual)]] \\ | ||
| + | *……………….. [[techtalk:ref:elec07|Ironhead - Simplified (Customized) Wiring Schematics]] \\ | ||
| - | |Sportster gauges from 1957-1969 ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2))|Here is the speedometer (67007-54A) used on \\ 1955-1956 KH and 1957 and 1958 Sportsters \\ (except C and H models). The "flippers" hide key \\ switches for the ignition and lights. ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2))|This A-C speedometer (67007-59), manufactured by \\ United Motors ((HD Service Bulletin #419 dated April 22, 1960 pg OA-7)), was used from 1959 to 1964 on \\ both the XLH and XLCH models. The bracket shown \\ here is for the XLH; it fits under the locomotive \\ nacelle and the trip odometer cable and knob comes \\ through the nacelle back panel. The XLCH models \\ had a different bracket with the odometer reset cable \\ knob mounting next to the speedo face. ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2))| | + | |Sportster gauges from 1957-1969 ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2))|Here is the speedometer (67007-54A) used on \\ 1955-1956 KH and 1957 and 1958 Sportsters \\ (except C and H models). The "flippers" hide key \\ switches for the ignition and lights. ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2))|This A-C speedometer (67007-59), manufactured by \\ United Motors ((HD Service Bulletin #419 dated April 22, 1960 pg OA-7)), was used from 1959 to 1964 on \\ both the XLH and XLCH models. The bracket shown \\ here is for the XLH; it fits under the locomotive \\ nacelle and the trip odometer cable and knob comes \\ through the nacelle back panel. The XLCH models \\ had a different bracket with the odometer reset cable \\ knob mounting next to the speedo face. ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2))| |
| |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1957-1969_sportster_speedo_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1957-1958_sportster_speedo_gauge_w_bracket_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1959-1964_sportster_speedo_gauge_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1957-1969_sportster_speedo_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1957-1958_sportster_speedo_gauge_w_bracket_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1959-1964_sportster_speedo_gauge_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| - | |The so-called Smiths gauges were introduced with \\ the 1965 models. Although the tach was, in fact, \\ built by Smiths, the speedo was still made by AC \\ and is identical to the earlier Speedometer except \\ for the fact. The 120 MPH version (lower right) was \\ used from 1965 to 1967. The 150 MPH version \\ was introduced in 1968 in celebration of a factory \\ tuned Sportster going 150 mph on the Bonneville \\ salt flats. ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2))|Here are all of them until at least 1978. ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2))|Sportster 1957-1958 (67007-54A) used on \\ 1955-1956 KH and 1957 and 1958 Sportsters \\ (except C and H models)((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2)) ((1952-1959 Sportster and K model Parts Catalog pg 67))| | + | |The so-called Smiths gauges were introduced with \\ the 1965 models. Although the tach was, in fact, \\ built by Smiths, the speedo was still made by AC \\ and is identical to the earlier Speedometer except \\ for the fact. The 120 MPH version (lower right) was \\ used from 1965 to 1967. The 150 MPH version \\ was introduced in 1968 in celebration of a factory \\ tuned Sportster going 150 mph on the Bonneville \\ salt flats. ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2))|Here are all of them until at least 1978. ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2))|Sportster 1957-1958 (67007-54A) used on \\ 1955-1956 KH and 1957 and 1958 Sportsters \\ (except C and H models)((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2)) ((1952-1959 Sportster and K model Parts Catalog pg 67))| |
| |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1965-1968_sportster_speedo_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:001_ih_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1957-1958_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1965-1968_sportster_speedo_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:001_ih_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1957-1958_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| - | |1959-1964 (67007-59) XLH & XLCH| 1959-1964 Speedo w/ XLCH bracket ((photo by scoobydo of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1023743&highlight=fuel+strainer+xlch)) |1965-1967 (67007-59A) XLH & XLCH \\ Replacement speedometer for 1959-1964 ((1957-1967 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 82)) ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2))| | + | |1959-1964 (67007-59) XLH & XLCH| 1959-1964 Speedo w/ XLCH bracket ((photo by scoobydo of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/109721-1959-xlch-replica?t=1023743&highlight=fuel+strainer+xlch)) |1965-1967 (67007-59A) XLH & XLCH \\ Replacement speedometer for 1959-1964 ((1957-1967 HD Sportster Parts Catalog pg 82)) ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2))| |
| |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1959-1964_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1959-1964_speedometer_by_scoobydo.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1965-1967_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1959-1964_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1959-1964_speedometer_by_scoobydo.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1965-1967_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| - | |1971 XLCH ((Photo by Len PA of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=4))| | + | |1971 XLCH ((Photo by Len PA of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page4?t=1745575&page=4))| |
| |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1971_sportster_speedo_gauge_by_laddabbo.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ih:elec:1971_sportster_speedo_gauge_by_laddabbo.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| ====== 1970-1973 XL/XLCH ====== | ====== 1970-1973 XL/XLCH ====== | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:1970-1973_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}} ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2)) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:1970-1973_sportster_gauges_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}} ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2)) \\ |
| ====== 1970-1985 Speedometers and Tachs ====== | ====== 1970-1985 Speedometers and Tachs ====== | ||
| ===== Speedometer (74-85) ===== | ===== Speedometer (74-85) ===== | ||
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| In 1974, the MoCo started using Nippon Seiki (Japan) gauges. There were three different part numbers used on Sportsters from 74-79 all having a range to 150 MPH. \\ | In 1974, the MoCo started using Nippon Seiki (Japan) gauges. There were three different part numbers used on Sportsters from 74-79 all having a range to 150 MPH. \\ | ||
| 1974 (67020-74) was replaced in 1975 by (67020-74A) which was replaced with the 1979 gauge (67020-74B). All three retro back to 1974. \\ | 1974 (67020-74) was replaced in 1975 by (67020-74A) which was replaced with the 1979 gauge (67020-74B). All three retro back to 1974. \\ | ||
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| The red wire is for the night light and the black wire (ground), if available, goes to the bracket. \\ | The red wire is for the night light and the black wire (ground), if available, goes to the bracket. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:speedometer_1974-1979_xlh-xlch_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}} ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1745575&page=2))\\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:speedometer_1974-1979_xlh-xlch_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}} ((Photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/162473-71-speedo-q/page2?t=1745575&page=2))\\ |
| 1980-1983 XL, 1981-1982 XLS mechanical speedometer (67020-75D). Has 1 red wire for illumination. \\ | 1980-1983 XL, 1981-1982 XLS mechanical speedometer (67020-75D). Has 1 red wire for illumination. \\ | ||
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| ===== Tachometer (70-73) ===== | ===== Tachometer (70-73) ===== | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachometer_1970-1973_92051-70_pic1_by_boneyard_cycles.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Boneyard Cycles in Melbourne, FL. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/barce49|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachometer_1970-1973_92051-70_pic2_by_boneyard_cycles.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Boneyard Cycles in Melbourne, FL. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/barce49|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachometer_1970-1973_92051-70_pic3_by_boneyard_cycles.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Boneyard Cycles in Melbourne, FL. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/barce49|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachometer_1970-1973_92051-70_pic1_by_boneyard_cycles.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Boneyard Cycles in Melbourne, FL. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/barce49|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachometer_1970-1973_92051-70_pic2_by_boneyard_cycles.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Boneyard Cycles in Melbourne, FL. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/barce49|Link to Ebay Store]] )) {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachometer_1970-1973_92051-70_pic3_by_boneyard_cycles.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Boneyard Cycles in Melbourne, FL. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/barce49|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | ||
| ===== Tachometer (74-80) ===== | ===== Tachometer (74-80) ===== | ||
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| 1980 was the last year of the mechanical tachometer. In 1974, the MoCo started using Nippon Seiki (Japan) gauges. \\ | 1980 was the last year of the mechanical tachometer. In 1974, the MoCo started using Nippon Seiki (Japan) gauges. \\ | ||
| 1974-1980 Sportster mechanical tachometers have 2 wire sheaths: \\ | 1974-1980 Sportster mechanical tachometers have 2 wire sheaths: \\ | ||
| Red (illumination), White (high beam indicator with blue lens), both in the same sheath, and a separate Black (ground to bracket or backpate). \\ | Red (illumination), White (high beam indicator with blue lens), both in the same sheath, and a separate Black (ground to bracket or backpate). \\ | ||
| - | There were 6 different part numbers for 74-80 Sportster tach heads with. \\ | + | There were 6 different part numbers for 74-80 Sportster tach heads. \\ |
| All of them are 2:1 ratio tachs using the same cable assembly and drive unit on the cam cover. \\ | All of them are 2:1 ratio tachs using the same cable assembly and drive unit on the cam cover. \\ | ||
| - | So all 1974-1980 2:1 Nippon Seiki tachs will interchange with the consideration that you may have to change the end connectors. \\ | + | So all 1974-1980 XL 2:1 Nippon Seiki tachs will interchange with the consideration that you may have to change the end connectors. \\ |
| All have the high beam indicator on the face as well. \\ | All have the high beam indicator on the face as well. \\ | ||
| The main difference in the versions seems to be the lettering, position of the lettering and the connectors on the wiring leads. \\ | The main difference in the versions seems to be the lettering, position of the lettering and the connectors on the wiring leads. \\ | ||
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| ===== Tachometer (81-85) ===== | ===== Tachometer (81-85) ===== | ||
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| 1981-1983 XL, 1981-1982 XLS tach (92051-81A) is the original electronic version starting in 1981. \\ | 1981-1983 XL, 1981-1982 XLS tach (92051-81A) is the original electronic version starting in 1981. \\ | ||
| It has a 4 wire sheath: Pink (signal), Red (illumination), Orange (+12v power from ACC breaker), White (high beam indicator) and separate Black (ground to bracket). \\ | It has a 4 wire sheath: Pink (signal), Red (illumination), Orange (+12v power from ACC breaker), White (high beam indicator) and separate Black (ground to bracket). \\ | ||
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| So wire accordingly to the drawing that matches the tach for these years. \\ | So wire accordingly to the drawing that matches the tach for these years. \\ | ||
| - | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachomter_1981-1982_wiring_by_brentmanii.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by BrentmanII of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1303014)) {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachometer_1981-1983_92051-81a_by_boneyard_cycles.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Boneyard Cycles in Melbourne, FL. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/barce49|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ | + | {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachomter_1981-1982_wiring_by_brentmanii.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by BrentmanII of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/127266-1982-back-of-tach-wiring-not-in-electrical-drawing?t=1303014)) {{:techtalk:ih:elec:tachometer_1981-1983_92051-81a_by_boneyard_cycles.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo courtesy of Boneyard Cycles in Melbourne, FL. [[https://www.ebay.com/str/barce49|Link to Ebay Store]] )) \\ |
