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techtalk:ih:elec03 [2023/03/19 19:41] hippysmack [1965-1985 Sportster 12V Horns] |
techtalk:ih:elec03 [2023/04/15 02:57] hippysmack [1952-1964 K model, Sportster 6V Horns] |
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| ==== 1952-1964 K model, Sportster 6V Horns ==== | ==== 1952-1964 K model, Sportster 6V Horns ==== | ||
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| - | | 1952-1964 K model, Sportster "Jubilee" 6V Trumpet Horn and Parts |||||||| | + | | 1952-1964 K model, Sportster "Jubilee" 6V Trumpet Horn and Parts ||||||||| |
| - | |Year Model|Horn \\ Part#|Horn Mtg. \\ Bracket|Horn \\ Power Pack|Power Pack \\ Mtg. Bracket|Support \\ Bracket|Horn \\ Cover|Horn \\ Screen| | + | |Year Model|Horn \\ Part#|Horn Type|Horn Mtg. \\ Bracket|Horn \\ Power Pack|Power Pack \\ Mtg. Bracket|Support \\ Bracket|Horn \\ Cover|Horn \\ Screen| |
| - | |1952-1954 \\ K Models (all)|69003-52|69142-52|(included \\ w/ horn)|69013-54 \\ laminated \\ rubber| - |69140-52 \\ 69140-52A (59)|69016-52| | + | |1952-1954 \\ K Models (all)|69003-52| |69142-52|(included \\ w/ horn)|69013-54 \\ laminated \\ rubber| - |69140-52 \\ 69140-52A (59)|69016-52| |
| - | |:::|69019-52|69142-52|69015-52|:::|:::|:::|:::| | + | |:::|69019-52| |69142-52|69015-52|:::|:::|:::|:::| |
| - | |1957-1964 \\ XL/XLC/XLH|69019-57|69029-57|69014-54|69013-54|69031-57|69140-54|69016-52| | + | |1957-1964 \\ XL/XLH|69019-57|Delco Remy|69029-57|69014-54|69013-54|69031-57|69140-54|69016-52| |
| - | |1959-1961 \\ XLCH|69002-47B \\ 69002-47C (62) \\ 69002-62 (63)|Included \\ w/ horn. \\ \\ Parts order \\ (69052-62) \\ x (4) \\ laminated). \\ \\ 69122-61P (67)| - | - |69031-57| - | - | | + | |1959-1961 \\ XLCH|69002-47B \\ 69002-47C (62) \\ 69002-62 (63)|Delco Remy \\ Model 16 \\ Type M|Included \\ w/ horn. \\ \\ Parts order \\ (69052-62) \\ x (4) \\ laminated). \\ \\ 69122-61P (67)| - | - |69031-57| - | - | |
| - | |1962 XLCH|69002-47C \\ 69002-62 (63) \\ 69002-62A (66)|:::| - | - |69031-57| - | - | | + | |1962 XLCH|69002-47C \\ 69002-62 (63) \\ 69002-62A (66)|Delco Remy \\ Model 16 \\ Type S|:::| - | - |69031-57| - | - | |
| - | |1963-1964 \\ XLCH|69002-62 \\ 69002-62A (66)|:::| - | - |69031-57| - | - | | + | |1963-1964 \\ XLCH|69002-62 \\ 69002-62A (66)|Delco Remy \\ Model 16 \\ Type S|:::| - | - |69031-57| - | - | |
| |:::|Horn capacitor (32727-63) added on XLCH engines #63XL-3015-up||||||| | |:::|Horn capacitor (32727-63) added on XLCH engines #63XL-3015-up||||||| | ||
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| - | There was a truck load of changes in the horn mounts between late 1970 till 1975. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-1492366.html)) The changes weren't really cataloged in the part books. \\ | ||
| - | Basically: \\ | ||
| - | 1965-1970 all used the same geometry. 1965 and 1966 used different stuff than 67> but the end result was same. \\ | ||
| - | And this 1st gen stuff was used on some 1971's, maybe even some 72's also. This set up used the larger diameter, short, stiff, 5/16" stud rubber mount. \\ | ||
| - | It held the horn way more solid than the later smaller, longer, 1/4" stud rubber mount. Both 1st gen brackets had less inward offset than any of the later ones. \\ | ||
| - | The shananigans began in late 1970 with the intro of the 'low' seat kit. \\ | ||
| - | 1971 and maybe the 1972 bikes that came from the factory using the older standard seats supposedly came with the 1st gen 65-70 setup. \\ | ||
| - | In late 1971, the low seat was available factory installed for the 1st time. \\ | ||
| - | The low seat required the ignition switch to be moved from the right side under the high seat to the left side on top motor mount where it fouled the horn brackets. \\ | ||
| - | At first, the new brackets with deeper offsets that opened up room for switch were supplied that used the old 5/16" rubber. \\ | ||
| - | There were some issues with interference. The smaller rubber mount and another set of new brackets were furnished to solve that issue. \\ | ||
| - | But the 1/4" rubber mount let the horn flop around to much hitting fins and/or shaking the wire loose from the slip-on terminal. \\ | ||
| - | The bumper was the fix for this. This 3rd gen setup was used till 1974. In 1975, a bigger ignition switch was used. New brackets again, 4th gen. \\ | ||
| - | There are so many different brackets used that having mismatched stuff is common changing horn position to who knows where. \\ | ||
| ==== 1965-1985 Sportster 12V Horns ==== | ==== 1965-1985 Sportster 12V Horns ==== | ||
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| | 1965-E1973 Sportster 12V Horn and Parts ||||||||| | | 1965-E1973 Sportster 12V Horn and Parts ||||||||| | ||
| - | |Year Model|Horn \\ Part#|Horn Mtg. \\ Bracket|Rubber \\ Mount \\ Bracket|Inner \\ Support \\ Bracket|Horn \\ Cover|Horn \\ Cover \\ Spacer|Horn \\ Ground \\ Strap|Horn \\ Capacitor| | + | |Year Model|Horn \\ Part#|Horn Mtg. \\ Bracket|Rubber \\ Isolator \\ Mount|Inner \\ Support \\ Bracket|Horn \\ Cover|Horn \\ Cover \\ Spacer|Horn \\ Ground \\ Strap|Horn \\ Capacitor| |
| |1965-1966 \\ XLH/XLCH|69000-65 \\ (low F note) \\ 69000-76 (76)|69052-65 \\ 69052-65A (66) \\ 69117-65 (67)|69125-65 \\ 5/16"-18 threads|69129-65|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65 \\ ("U" shaped \\ metal) \\ 70016-65A \\ (braided wire)|32727-63 \\ on 63-69 \\ XLCH \\ (only)| | |1965-1966 \\ XLH/XLCH|69000-65 \\ (low F note) \\ 69000-76 (76)|69052-65 \\ 69052-65A (66) \\ 69117-65 (67)|69125-65 \\ 5/16"-18 threads|69129-65|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65 \\ ("U" shaped \\ metal) \\ 70016-65A \\ (braided wire)|32727-63 \\ on 63-69 \\ XLCH \\ (only)| | ||
| - | |1967-1972 \\ XLH/XLCH \\ Standard seat|69000-65 \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-65|69125-65 \\ 62563-65 \\ (L70 XLH only) \\ 1/4"-20 threads|69129-67|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65 \\ 70016-65A (68)|:::| | + | |1967-1972 \\ XLH/XLCH \\ Standard seat|69000-65 \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-65|69125-65|69129-67|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65 \\ 70016-65A (68)|:::| |
| - | |1970- \\ XLH/XLCH|69001-70 \\ (high A note) \\ 69016-76 (76)| | | |69141-70| | | - | | + | |1970-E1976 \\ XLH/XLCH|69001-70 \\ (high A note) \\ 69016-76 (76)| | | |69141-70| | | - | |
| - | |L1971 \\ XLH/XLCH \\ Low seat|69000-65 \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-71 \\ 69117-71A (72)|62563-65|69129-71|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65A| - | | + | |L1970-E1971 \\ XLH/XLCH \\ w/ Accessory \\ Low Seat|69000-65 \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-65 \\ 69117-71 (L71) \\ 69117-71A (72)|62563-65 \\ 1/4"-20 threads \\ 69125-65 (L71) \\ 5/16"-18 threads \\ 62563-65 (72) \\ 1/4"-20 threads|69129-67 \\ 69129-71 (L71) \\ 69129-72 (72) \\ 69129-72A (75) \\ 69129-72B (78)|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65A| - | |
| + | |L1971 \\ XLH/XLCH \\ OEM Low seat|69000-65 \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-71 (L71) \\ uses 5/16" iso \\ 69117-71A (72) \\ uses 1/4" iso|69125-65 \\ 5/16"-18 threads \\ 62563-65 (72) \\ 1/4"-20 threads|69129-71 \\ 69129-72 (72) \\ 69129-72A (75) \\ 69129-72B (78)|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65A| - | | ||
| |1972-E1973 \\ XLH/XLCH \\ Low seat|69000-65 \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-71A|62563-65|69129-72 \\ 69129-72A (75) \\ 69129-72B (78)|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65A| - | | |1972-E1973 \\ XLH/XLCH \\ Low seat|69000-65 \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-71A|62563-65|69129-72 \\ 69129-72A (75) \\ 69129-72B (78)|69138-65|69144-65|70016-65A| - | | ||
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| | L1973-1985 Sportster 12V Horn and Parts ||||||||| | | L1973-1985 Sportster 12V Horn and Parts ||||||||| | ||
| - | |Year Model|Horn \\ Part#|Horn Mtg. \\ Bracket|Rubber \\ Mount \\ Bracket|Inner \\ Support \\ Bracket|Horn \\ Cover|Horn \\ Cover \\ Spacer|Horn \\ Ground \\ Strap|Horn \\ Bumper \\ Bracket| | + | |Year Model|Horn \\ Part#|Horn Mtg. \\ Bracket|Rubber \\ Isolator \\ Mount|Inner \\ Support \\ Bracket|Horn \\ Cover|Horn \\ Cover \\ Spacer|Horn \\ Ground \\ Strap|Horn \\ Bumper \\ Bracket| |
| - | |L1973-E1976 \\ XLH/XLCH|69000-65 \\ (low F note) \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-71A|62563-65|69129-72 \\ 69129-72A (75) \\ 69129-72B (78) |69138-65|69144-65|70016-65A|69041-73 \\ \\ (bumper x2 \\ 69042-73)| | + | |L1973-E1976 \\ XLH/XLCH|69000-65 \\ (low F note) \\ 69000-76 (76)|69117-71A|62563-65|69129-72 \\ 69129-72A (75) \\ 69129-72B (78) |69138-65|69144-65|70016-65A|bracket \\ 69041-73 \\ \\ bumper \\ (L76-E81) \\ (69042-73) \\ bumper \\ (81- ) \\ (11428)| |
| - | |L1976- \\ XLH/XLCH|69000-76 \\ (low F note)|69117-71A|62563-65|69129-72A \\ 69129-72B (78)|69140-76 \\ (assembly)| - |70016-65A|:::| | + | |L1976-1985 \\ XLH/XLCH \\ XLS/XLX|69000-76 \\ (low F note)|69117-71A|62563-65|69129-72A \\ 69129-72B (78)|XLH/XLCH/XLX \\ XLS (83-85) \\ 69140-76 (chrome assembly) \\ XLS (80-82) \\ 69011-76 (black assembly)||70016-65A|:::| |
| - | |:::|Horn assembly 69009-76 includes the cover. Replaced by 69003-76 (78)|||||||| | + | |:::|Horn assembly 69009-76 includes the cover. Replaced by 69003-76 (78)||||||:::|:::| |
| - | |L1976- \\ XLH/XLCH|69016-76 \\ (high A note)| | | |69017-76 \\ (assembly)| | + | |L1976-1978 \\ XLH/XLCH|69016-76 \\ (high A note)| | | |69017-76 \\ (assembly)||70016-65A|:::| |
| + | |:::|1979-later, this horn was only sold in the twin horn kit (69003-76 )||||||:::|:::| | ||
| + | |1977 XLCR \\ 1978 XLCR|69000-76|69117-71A|62563-65|69129-72A \\ 69129-72B|69011-76 (black assembly)||70016-65A|:::| | ||
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