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| - | From Moon Wolf on modifications. ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349)) \\ | + | From Moon Wolf on modifications. ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/156402-how-to-fix-seat-mounting-ears?t=1674349)) \\ |
| Modifications were very common (on these bikes). I would guess about half the frames you run across have the ears cut off. \\ | Modifications were very common (on these bikes). I would guess about half the frames you run across have the ears cut off. \\ | ||
| In the sixties and seventies, everyone was running chopper seats and the ears got in the way of the flat look we were after, so we hacked them off (sorry). \\ | In the sixties and seventies, everyone was running chopper seats and the ears got in the way of the flat look we were after, so we hacked them off (sorry). \\ | ||
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| ====== General Information ====== | ====== General Information ====== | ||
| ===== Frame Interchange ===== | ===== Frame Interchange ===== | ||
| - | + | 1952-1976 frames will interchange. Short frame was 52-66 all and 67-69 CH. Long frames were the other years / models. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/148782-animal-mother-reigns/page3?t=1615459&page=3)) \\ | |
| - | 1952-1976 frames will interchange. Short frame was 52-66 all and 67-69 CH. Long frames were the other years / models. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1615459&page=3)) \\ | + | |
| To change from (long or short) frame you need: frame, swing arm (also long or short. It's the swing arm that varies the wheel base), driver peg supports. \\ | To change from (long or short) frame you need: frame, swing arm (also long or short. It's the swing arm that varies the wheel base), driver peg supports. \\ | ||
| Using the short frame with hump (long fame) motors will require some kind of solution of side stand contacting primary drain plug and boss. \\ | Using the short frame with hump (long fame) motors will require some kind of solution of side stand contacting primary drain plug and boss. \\ | ||
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| This is a quote from Moon Wolf regarding short frames: \\ | This is a quote from Moon Wolf regarding short frames: \\ | ||
| - | <blockquote>The XLH and XLCH frame are essentially the same frame thru 1966. ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1951365&page=2)) \\ | + | <blockquote>The XLH and XLCH frame are essentially the same frame thru 1966. ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/181280-60s-sportster-frame-identification/page2?t=1951365&page=2)) \\ |
| The XLH has some extra mounts but you could make an convincing CH frame out of one of them quite easily. \\ | The XLH has some extra mounts but you could make an convincing CH frame out of one of them quite easily. \\ | ||
| The "dogleg" H or "long" frame debuts in 67, and provides additional room for the electric start apparatus, which also debuts that year along with the one inch longer swingarm. \\ | The "dogleg" H or "long" frame debuts in 67, and provides additional room for the electric start apparatus, which also debuts that year along with the one inch longer swingarm. \\ | ||
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| - | *L1973-1976 frames were sold for replacement for 67-72 XLH and 70-72 XLCH using Frame Adapter Kit (47385-75). \\ The kit includes: | + | * L1973-1976 frames were sold for replacement for 67-72 XLH and 70-72 XLCH using Frame Adapter Kit (47385-75). \\ The kit includes: |
| * Frame (47014-73), has no provisions for the solo plunger seat or springs. | * Frame (47014-73), has no provisions for the solo plunger seat or springs. | ||
| * Ignition switch bracket (47386-75) for use with pre-72 models without one. | * Ignition switch bracket (47386-75) for use with pre-72 models without one. | ||
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| ===== Seat Casting ===== | ===== Seat Casting ===== | ||
| - | The same seat casting was used from 1957-1964 on XL, XLH, XLC and XLCH models. \\ | + | The same seat casting was used from 1957-1964 on XL, XLH, XLC and XLCH models. ((Dr Dick of the XLFORUM)) \\ |
| Likewise the 65 seat casting was used from 1965-1966 XLH and 1965-1969 XLCH. \\ | Likewise the 65 seat casting was used from 1965-1966 XLH and 1965-1969 XLCH. \\ | ||
| This version has the flat boss on the right side underneath for 65-66 XLH coil and 65 (only) regulator mounts. \\ | This version has the flat boss on the right side underneath for 65-66 XLH coil and 65 (only) regulator mounts. \\ | ||
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| Casting number underneath (47658-52) on both versions. \\ | Casting number underneath (47658-52) on both versions. \\ | ||
| - | | 57-64 XL, XLH,XLC, XLCH Seat Casting ((photo by Bigport of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1951365)) | 65-66 XLH and 65-69 XLCH Seat Casting ((photo by Bigport of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1951365)) | | + | | 57-64 XL, XLH,XLC, XLCH Style Seat Casting ((photo by Bigport of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/181280-60s-sportster-frame-identification?t=1951365)) | 65-66 XLH and 65-69 XLCH Style Seat Casting ((photo by Bigport of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/181280-60s-sportster-frame-identification?t=1951365)) | |
| |{{:techtalk:ih:body:seat_casting_-_sportster_57-64_xl-xlh-xlc-xlch_by_bigport.jpg?direct&300|}}| {{:techtalk:ih:body:seat_casting_-_sportster_65-66_h_65-69_ch_by_bigport.jpg?direct&300|}}| | |{{:techtalk:ih:body:seat_casting_-_sportster_57-64_xl-xlh-xlc-xlch_by_bigport.jpg?direct&300|}}| {{:techtalk:ih:body:seat_casting_-_sportster_65-66_h_65-69_ch_by_bigport.jpg?direct&300|}}| | ||
| **Seat Mounting Ears**: \\ | **Seat Mounting Ears**: \\ | ||
| The distance between the seat mounting ears is 1-5/8". The inside of the ears line up with the outside of the main tube. \\ | The distance between the seat mounting ears is 1-5/8". The inside of the ears line up with the outside of the main tube. \\ | ||
| - | The bottom of the ears line up exactly with the seat casting. Measuring from the end of the main tube to the tip of the ears is 7-5/8". ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) \\ | + | The bottom of the ears line up exactly with the seat casting. Measuring from the end of the main tube to the tip of the ears is 7-5/8". ((Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/156402-how-to-fix-seat-mounting-ears/page3?t=1674349&page=3)) \\ |
| V-twin sells the ears prefabbed. \\ | V-twin sells the ears prefabbed. \\ | ||
| - | The 'bottom' hole on the seat casting is for the rear mount of a 'turtle tank' or any of the large capacity K model/XL/XLH fuel tanks going back to 1952. ((Magneto Sportster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) \\ | + | The 'bottom' hole on the seat casting is for the rear mount of a 'turtle tank' or any of the large capacity K model/XL/XLH fuel tanks going back to 1952. ((Magneto Sportster of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/156402-how-to-fix-seat-mounting-ears/page3?t=1674349&page=3)) \\ |
| {{:techtalk:ih:body:1962_xlh_seat_casting_pic1_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1962_xlh_seat_casting_pic2_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ih:body:1962_xlh_seat_casting_pic1_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1962_xlh_seat_casting_pic2_by_moon_wolf.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by Moon Wolf of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1674349&page=3)) \\ | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic5_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic6_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic8_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic5_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic6_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic8_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
| + | {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic9_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic10_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&250|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1958-1964_xlch_pic12_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&350|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
| ===== 1965 XLCH ===== | ===== 1965 XLCH ===== | ||
| The 65 frame part# is (47014-58), same part number as previous year XLCH models. \\ | The 65 frame part# is (47014-58), same part number as previous year XLCH models. \\ | ||
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| {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic1_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic2_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic1_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic2_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&400|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
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| + | {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic6_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic7_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
| {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic3_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic4_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic5_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) \\ | {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic3_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic4_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) {{:techtalk:ih:body:1965-1969_xlch_pic5_by_akchopper.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by akchopper of the XLFORUM)) \\ | ||
