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techtalk:evo:transfinal04 [2022/11/18 18:09]
ixl2relax [The Shifter Shaft Seal]
techtalk:evo:transfinal04 [2024/01/09 02:13] (current)
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 ===== Shifter Assembly ===== ===== Shifter Assembly =====
  
-{{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​shifter-assemby-04later.jpg?​400|}}((pic from AB,​Frank ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=1799188)){{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​shiftershaft-oilseal-37107-06-manborn.jpg?​400|}}{{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​shiftershaft-bushing-40574-06.jpg?​200|}} ​+{{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​shifter-assemby-04later.jpg?​400|}}((pic from AB,​Frank ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/​sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/​167512-primary-rattle-noises-wtf-now?​t=1799188)){{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​shiftershaft-oilseal-37107-06-manborn.jpg?​400|}}{{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​shiftershaft-bushing-40574-06.jpg?​200|}} ​
  
 **2004-2005 vs 2006+ Shifter Assembly**\\ **2004-2005 vs 2006+ Shifter Assembly**\\
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 | All of these may have the same Internal Casting # 34951-04 which can be confusing ||| | All of these may have the same Internal Casting # 34951-04 which can be confusing |||
  
-+__06-later - The outer diameter of the seal is larger, the bushing has a shoulder and presses in place from the inside of the cover. ((oo_buck_us in Post#15 - http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=1560232))\\++__06-later - The outer diameter of the seal is larger, the bushing has a shoulder and presses in place from the inside of the cover. ((oo_buck_us in Post#15 - https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/​sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/​143966-04-primary-cover-on-an-07?​t=1560232))\\
 ++_latest P/N is 11000101 with '​garter spring'​ inside (old P/N 37101-84/​A/​B - no spring). Dims per James Gasket - 13 x 19 x 4\\ ++_latest P/N is 11000101 with '​garter spring'​ inside (old P/N 37101-84/​A/​B - no spring). Dims per James Gasket - 13 x 19 x 4\\
 ... Cometic Equiv of 11000101 is C10213\\ ... Cometic Equiv of 11000101 is C10213\\
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 On installs, make sure the shaft is free from debris or rust and be sure to put tape over the splines on the shifter shaft before installing the oil seal to prevent the splines from cutting the seal. On installs, make sure the shaft is free from debris or rust and be sure to put tape over the splines on the shifter shaft before installing the oil seal to prevent the splines from cutting the seal.
  
-{{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​wire_brush_shifter_shaft_by_cjburr.jpeg?​direct&​335|}} ((photo by cjburr of the XLFORUM ​http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?t=49915)) {{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​shiftershaft-tapeoversplines-manborn.jpg?​335|}} \\+{{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​wire_brush_shifter_shaft_by_cjburr.jpeg?​direct&​335|}} ((photo by cjburr of the XLFORUM ​https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/​sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/​29955-06-clutch-install?t=49915)) {{:​techtalk:​evo:​transfinal:​shiftershaft-tapeoversplines-manborn.jpg?​335|}} \\
  
 The Oil Seal is installed first, followed by the washer/​spacer (the '​04-'​05 Parts Manual may show the **WRONG** order).\\ The Oil Seal is installed first, followed by the washer/​spacer (the '​04-'​05 Parts Manual may show the **WRONG** order).\\
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 BUT, the principle still applies: Insert the seal slightly below that deepest edge of the cavity and don't bottom out the seal. That gives it the best chance to work correctly. BUT, the principle still applies: Insert the seal slightly below that deepest edge of the cavity and don't bottom out the seal. That gives it the best chance to work correctly.
  
-NOTE: Some owners have mistakenly gotten 2006-later covers and installed on 2004-05 engines. Neither stock shifter shaft seals would fit correctly, but purchasing an aftermarket seal, 12mm x 22mm x 5mm R23, seems to fit.((See post#15 from 93trident of the XLForum - http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=2079676))+NOTE: Some owners have mistakenly gotten 2006-later covers and installed on 2004-05 engines. Neither stock shifter shaft seals would fit correctly, but purchasing an aftermarket seal, 12mm x 22mm x 5mm R23, seems to fit.((See post#15 from 93trident of the XLForum - https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-motor-engine/​sportster-motorcycle-bottom-end/​202496-what-s-that-about-then?​t=2079676))
  
 Also see the Sportsterpedia Primary Cover info [[techtalk:​evo:​priclutch02|HERE]]. Also see the Sportsterpedia Primary Cover info [[techtalk:​evo:​priclutch02|HERE]].
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 Some XLForum reference threads:\\ Some XLForum reference threads:\\
-http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=254258\\ +https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-intake-and-exhaust/​sportster-motorcycle-air-intake-carburetor-efi-fuel-and-exhaust/​53895-06-carb-to-07-fuel-injection-conversion?​t=254258\\ 
-http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=79795\\ +https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/​sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/​39317-shifter-shaft-seal?​t=79795\\ 
-http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?t=1560232 (pics of '04 & '06 primary cover)\\ +https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-drivetrain/​sportster-motorcycle-transmission-clutch-primary-secondary-drive/​143966-04-primary-cover-on-an-07?t=1560232 (pics of '04 & '06 primary cover)\\ 
-http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=548729\\ +https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/​76901-primary-cover-differences-05-vs-06?​t=548729\\ 
-http://​xlforum.net/​forums/showthread.php?​t=1218730\\+https://www.xlforum.net/​forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/​sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/​rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/​123027-06-1200c-primary-oil-leak?​t=1218730\\
  
  
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 |    |--Steel plate| 0.0059 in. / (0.150 mm)| |    |--Steel plate| 0.0059 in. / (0.150 mm)|
 |Clutch pack service wear limit|0.6610 in. min. / (16.787 mm)| |Clutch pack service wear limit|0.6610 in. min. / (16.787 mm)|
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 ===== Primary Drive (engine to transmission) ===== ===== Primary Drive (engine to transmission) =====
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 ^    |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th^ ​    ​|1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th| ^    |1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th^ ​    ​|1st|2nd|3rd|4th|5th|
 |2004|9.647|6.633|5.143|4.248|3.643^ ​    ​|9.004|6.190|4.800|3.965|3.400| |2004|9.647|6.633|5.143|4.248|3.643^ ​    ​|9.004|6.190|4.800|3.965|3.400|
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 ===== Mainshaft Fifth Gear ===== ===== Mainshaft Fifth Gear =====