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 ====== Oil Cap ======
 ====== Oil Tank Assembly Part Numbers ======
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   * [[techtalk:evo:oil04g|Pics and Information on 2004-2009 Sportster Oil Tanks]]
   * [[techtalk:evo:oil04h|Pics and Information on 2010-2013 Sportster Oil Tanks]]
-  * [[techtalk:evo:oil04i|Pics and Information on 2014-Up Sportster Oil Tanks]]
+  * [[techtalk:evo:oil04i|Pics and Information on 2014-2022 Sportster Oil Tanks]]
   * [[techtalk:evo:oil04k|How to Distinguish Between 1982-2003 Oil Tanks at a Glance]]
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 |:::|883R|62951-02 (black) |:::|:::|
 |2004-2006|All|62888-04 \\ 62888-04B (10psi relief valve)|63000-04 \\ 63000-04A (2006)|66194-04 \\ 66194-04B (2006)|
-|2007-2009|All (except XR1200)|62888-04A \\ 62888-04B (10psi relief valve)|63000-04A \\ 63000-04B (2009)|66194-04C|
+|2007-2009|All (except XR1200)|62888-04A \\ 62888-04B (10psi relief valve) \\ 62954-10 (requires hose reroute)|63000-04A \\ 63000-04B (2009)|66194-04C|
 |:::|07-08 1200N|:::|62592-07|:::|
 |:::|09 883N/1200N|:::|62592-07A|:::|
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 |:::|883N/1200N|:::|62592-07A|:::|
 |:::|XR1200/XR1200X|62888-08A|63008-08|
-|2014-2016|All|62500017|63000-04B|66000031|
+|2014-2022|All|62500017|63000-04B|66000031|
 |:::|883N|:::|62592-07A|:::|
+====== Oil Tank Interchangeability ======
+  * These oil tanks will fit listed models without issue;
+    * 2004-2009 models (except XR1200/XR1200X): 62888-04, 62888-04A, 62888-04B.
+    * XR1200/XR1200X: 62888-08, 62888-08A.
+    * 2014-2016 models: 62500017.
+  * These tanks will fit listed models with alterations;
+    * 2004-2009 models can use the 2010-2013 tank if hose routings are changed to suit. ((Captain Johnny of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/205256-oil-tank#post4647082)).
 ====== Oil Line Routing ======
   * **1986-1990 (all models)**:
-    * Oil feed from the tank runs to the lower rear fitting of the oil pump (3/8" hose and routes UNDER the starter). \\ It then makes a soft bend down towards the ground in the area between the starter and the rear cylinder exhaust pushrod tube. \\ (also that is the area where the seam is for the sprocket cover and the cam cover where they meet) \\ The hose can be slipped behind these covers (at the junction of the two covers) without removing the covers. \\ The hose then drops down to follow along the frame (look from underneath the bike) and over to the oil pump. \\ Feed the hose starting at the oil pump, and then going along the frame tube, then up to the starter at the area (behind the covers). \\ You should be able to feed that hose under the starter to the oil tank without having to remove the starter or any covers and without any kinks. ((kd460 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3907655#post3907655))
+    * Oil feed from the tank runs to the lower rear fitting of the oil pump (3/8" hose and routes UNDER the starter). \\ It then makes a soft bend down towards the ground in the area between the starter and the rear cylinder exhaust pushrod tube. \\ (also that is the area where the seam is for the sprocket cover and the cam cover where they meet) \\ The hose can be slipped behind these covers (at the junction of the two covers) without removing the covers. \\ The hose then drops down to follow along the frame (look from underneath the bike) and over to the oil pump. \\ Feed the hose starting at the oil pump, and then going along the frame tube, then up to the starter at the area (behind the covers). \\ You should be able to feed that hose under the starter to the oil tank without having to remove the starter or any covers and without any kinks. ((kd460 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/lubrication-and-lubricants/133998-oil-hose-kink#post2862911))
     * Oil feed from the pump to the filter runs from the lower front (smaller) AN fitting to the outside threaded hole at the filter pad.
     * Oil feed from the filter to the pump is from the center hole at the filter pad to the upper (larger) AN fitting on the pump.
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     * The primary / transmission is vented to atmosphere from the top of the transmission near the rear motor mount (3/8" hose straight fitting).
   * **1994-2003**:
-    * Oil feed hose from the tank doubles as a drain to a point. \\ A short hose runs across the bike from the tank to a plastic 90° fitting. \\ The hose turns down on the left side of the bike to just above the bottom of the left frame tube and ends into a plastic tee. \\ A short hose runs from the tee around the outside of the rear tube to a steel plug welded on a bracket to the rear of the right frame tube. \\  Then a longer hose runs from the tee to the lower rear fitting of the oil pump (3/8" hose).
+    * Oil feed hose from the tank doubles as a drain to a point. \\ A short 1/2" hose runs from the oil tank down the left side of the bike to a plastic 3-way 90° tee just above the lower left frame. \\ The tee has (2) 1/2" and (1) 3/8" nipples. \\ A short 1/2" drain hose runs from the tee around the outside of the left rear tube to a steel plug welded on a bracket to the rear of the right frame tube. \\ Then a longer 3/8" hose runs from the tee, behind the motor and between the motor and the seat downtubes to the lower rear fitting of the oil pump. The hose rests above and is zip tied to the top of the right lower tube.
     * Oil feed from the pump to the filter runs from the lower front AN fitting on the pump to the (cam side) threaded hole at the filter pad. \\ (from there, oil is routed into the engine internally)
     * Oil return to the tank is on the upper front of the oil pump (3/8" hose fitting).
     * Vent line from the oil tank is on the rear of the cam cover (1/4" hose 90° fitting).
+      * Both (return and vent) lines run thru a oil line clip (bracket) that screw onto the small rear stud of the starter. \\ The clip is secured by a nylok nut. Both hoses are secured away from the moving sprocket with the clip installed.
     * Primary / transmission vent:
       * 1994-1999: The primary / trans is vented to atmosphere from the top of the transmission near the rear motor mount (vertical 3/8" hose straight fitting).
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 {{:techtalk:evo:oil:simplified_oil_routing_86-90_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:evo:oil:simplified_oil_routing_91-93_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} {{:techtalk:evo:oil:simplified_oil_routing_94-03_sportster_by_hippysmack.png?direct&300|}} \\
-====== Securing/Protecting Oil Lines ======
 |  1994-2003 Oil Return and Tank Vent Oil Lines, also Hose Clip (31532-94) ((Left photo courtesy of Ebay seller, Robison Motorcycles [[ https://www.ebay.com/str/robisonmotorcycles?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 |Link to Ebay Store]] )) ((Right photo by Hippysmack))  ||
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 If the cam chest is holding pressure, then your breather valve(s) can not be venting properly. \\
-Bottom line is that if the vent system is working properly, you shouldn't have excessive pressure build up in the oil tank. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87313)) \\
+Bottom line is that if the vent system is working properly, you shouldn't have excessive pressure build up in the oil tank. ((Deimus of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/40457-whoa-oil-tank-vomits-oil?t=87313)) \\
 \\
 ====== Fittings ======
+\\
 ===== At the Oil Tank =====
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 The drain is the bigger straight nipple on the back near the bottom of the tank (1/2" hose fitting). \\
-{{:techtalk:ih:oil:1983-1993_sportster_oil_tank_by_billeuze.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by billeuze of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1192983)) \\
+{{:techtalk:ih:oil:1983-1993_sportster_oil_tank_by_billeuze.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by billeuze of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/121711-new-oil-lines?t=1192983)) \\
 ==== 1994-2003 ====
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 The drain is connected to one side of the tee around to the steel plug nipple on the rear of the frame under the swingarm. \\
-{{:techtalk:evo:oil:2001_sportster_oil_tank_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by AnaChris of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=5214735))
+{{:techtalk:evo:oil:2001_sportster_oil_tank_by_anachris.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by AnaChris of the XLFORUM, labeled by Hippysmack https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/177629-oil-tank-repair-or-replace?postid=5214735#post3800299))
 ==== 2004-Up ====
+|  2004-2009 Oil Tank Fittings ((photo by Dragonis of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/44728-stock-05-oil-tank-question?threadid=148936))  |  2010-2013 Oil Tank Fittings \\ (All except XR1200X / XR1200R) ((photo by ofaloto.tupi of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/197270-replacing-oil-tank#post4316260))  |  2014 and Up Oil Tank Fittings ((photo by Revolver944 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/183104-2014-iron-oil-tank#post3908825 labeled by Hippysmack))  |
-|  2004-2009 Oil Tank Fittings ((photo by Dragonis of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=148936))  |  2010-2013 Oil Tank Fittings \\ (All except XR1200X / XR1200R) ((photo by ofaloto.tupi of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5759948#post5759948))  |  2014 and Up Oil Tank Fittings ((photo by Revolver944 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5373531 labeled by Hippysmack))  |
 |{{:techtalk:evo:oil:2005_sportster_oil_tank_fittings_by_dragonis.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:oil:2010-2013_oil_tank_by_ofaloto.tupi.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:oil:2014_oil_tank_by_revolver944_cropped_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&250|}}|
 ===== At the Oil Pump =====
 Fittings are labeled in the pics below. \\
-|  86-90 oil pump fittings labeled. ((photo by Hippysmack))  |  91 and Up oil pump fittings labeled ((photo by Scuba10jdl of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?s=1805bf492596d317acbd024af1df75fa&p=5345059))  |
+|  86-90 oil pump fittings labeled. ((photo by Hippysmack))  |  91 and Up oil pump fittings labeled ((photo by Scuba10jdl of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/frame-mount-evo-sportster-talk-1986-2003-models/181984-oily-hell?s=1805bf492596d317acbd024af1df75fa#post3888832))  |
 |{{:techtalk:evo:oil:86-90_oil_pump_oiling_paths_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:oil:02_oil_pump_by_scuba10jdl.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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 Periodically inspect all your oil hose connections for leaks or cracks / deteriation, especially before long rides. \\
-{{:techtalk:evo:oil:cracked_oil_hose_by_mcqueen.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by McQueen of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2069146)) \\
+{{:techtalk:evo:oil:cracked_oil_hose_by_mcqueen.jpg?direct&300|}} ((photo by McQueen of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/efi-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2007-and-up/193166-oil-hose-replacement-help?t=2069146)) \\
 ====== Drain Hose Locations per Year Model ======
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 There is a dedicated drain hose from the oil tank. \\
 It comes out from the tank, makes a 90 degree bend to the rear and fits into a cylindrical plug welded to the underside of the battery tray. \\
-(on the rear part of the tray, near where the battery strap is fastened) ((John Harper of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1985862)) \\
+(on the rear part of the tray, near where the battery strap is fastened) ((John Harper of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/lubrication-and-lubricants/185512-oil-drain-hose?t=1985862)) \\
 You should see the oil feed fitting on the bottom of the tank from the chain guard side. \\
 The drain fitting is at the bottom of the sheet metal that forms the back of the tank. \\
-|   OEM oil drain hose on 1989 XLH 1200 ((photo by RökkenRöll of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2069295))  |   Oil drain with 82-93 retro oil tank ((photo by chris16371 of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1985862))  |
+|   OEM oil drain hose on 1989 XLH 1200 ((photo by RökkenRöll of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/193293-oil-drain?t=2069295))  |   Oil drain with 82-93 retro oil tank ((photo by chris16371 of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/lubrication-and-lubricants/185512-oil-drain-hose?t=1985862))  |
 |{{:techtalk:evo:oil:1989_xlh_1200_engine_oil_drain_hose_by_rokkenroll.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:ih:oil:1982-1993_sportster_retrofit_oil_tank_kit_drain_hose_by_chris16371.jpg?direct&300|}}|
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 There is a steel plug welded to the rear of the frame under the swingarm. \\
 The drain hose fits over that plug with a worm clamp to hold it there. \\
+You can use auto (fuel) hose from the local car parts store drain hose replacement. \\
+If you cut it the right length, you can bend it without kinking it. \\
+Kinking the hose will not change the flow or anything but may show up as a leak later as the hose ages. \\
-|  Oil feed and drain hose ((photo by Matt Black of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2067584))  |   Engine oil drain hose location on a 1998 1200S ((photo by Hippysmack))  |
+|  Oil feed and drain hose ((photo by Matt Black of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/192979-1995-oil-lines-obsolete?t=2067584))  |   Engine oil drain hose location on a 1998 1200S ((photo by Hippysmack))  |
 |{{:techtalk:evo:oil:1994-2003_sportster_oil_feed_and_drain_hose_by_matt_black.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:oil:1998_1200s_engine_oil_drain_hose_by_hippysmack.jpg?direct&300|}}|
 ===== 04-05 models =====
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 The drain hose is anchored up inside the lower rails. \\
-|  Drain clamp on 04-05 models ((photo by harley506d of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072273&page=3))  ||  Wider view ((photo by bsaman of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=691283&page=2))  |
+|  Drain clamp on 04-05 models ((photo by harley506d of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/195848-06-sporster-oil-tank-drain/page3?t=2072273&page=3))  ||  Wider view ((photo by bsaman of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/rubber-mount-sportster-motorcycle-talk-2004-2006/87615-crank-replacement-documentation/page2?t=691283&page=2))  |
 |{{:techtalk:evo:oil:05_drain_hose_clamp_1_by_harley506d.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:oil:05_drain_hose_clamp_2_by_harley506d.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:oil:04_oil_drain_clamp_by_bsaman.jpg?direct&300|}}|
 ===== 06-Up models =====
-The MoCo eliminated the clamp itself and went to a solid plastic plug (33123-06). ((sportsterpaul of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1232772&highlight=frame+clamp&page=46)) \\
+The MoCo eliminated the clamp itself and went to a solid plastic plug (33123-06). ((sportsterpaul of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/124047-getting-out-the-wrenches-was-broken-exhaust-stud/page46?t=1232772&highlight=frame+clamp&page=46)) \\
 It has a small head that hose clamps into the drain hose and dangles between the bottom frame rails. \\
-It just barely peeks below the frame rails. You can cut the hose a little shorter so it doesn't hang too far below the rails ((CitySlicker of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1232772&highlight=frame+clamp&page=47)) \\
+It just barely peeks below the frame rails. You can cut the hose a little shorter so it doesn't hang too far below the rails ((CitySlicker of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-general-discussion-and-problems/124047-getting-out-the-wrenches-was-broken-exhaust-stud/page47?t=1232772&highlight=frame+clamp&page=47)) \\
-|  Drain plug location on an 06 883 ((photos by southflasportster of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=463361&page=2))  |||
+|  Drain plug location on an 06 883 ((photos by southflasportster of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/lubrication-and-lubricants/69138-simple-oil-change/page2?t=463361&page=2))  |||
 |{{:techtalk:evo:oil:06_oil_drain_plug_location_1_by_southflasportster.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:oil:06_oil_drain_plug_location_2_by_southflasportster.jpg?direct&300|}}|{{:techtalk:evo:oil:06_oil_drain_plug_location_3_by_southflasportster.jpg?direct&300|}}|
 The plastic plug was updated (33123-06A).
-|  09-up oil tank drain plug ((photo by harley506d of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?p=5730843#post5730843))  |
+|  09-up oil tank drain plug ((photo by harley506d of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-suspension-frame-forks-handlebars-fuel-tank-oil-tank-fenders/195848-06-sporster-oil-tank-drain/page2#post4276154))  |
 |{{:techtalk:evo:oil:09-17_oil_drain_plug_by_harley506d.jpg?direct&300|}}|

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