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====== Outer Separator Plate Seal ====== | ====== Outer Separator Plate Seal ====== |
There were 2 different outer plate seals used on 77-85 oil pumps. \\ | There were 2 different outer plate seals used on 1977-1985 oil pumps. \\ |
It is supposed to prevent oil from rising into the scavenge gears / engine from the feed section of the pump. \\ | It is supposed to prevent oil from rising into the scavenge gears / engine from the feed section of the pump. \\ |
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* (12036) was used on 77-82 models. | * (12036) was used on 1977-1982 models. |
* Sold for use with outer separator plate (26493-75) | * Sold for use with outer separator plate (26493-75) |
* This seal simply slides down the driveshaft during installation and rests against the inner plate. | * This seal simply slides down the driveshaft during installation and rests against the inner plate. |
* It also covers the retainer ring. | * It also covers the retainer ring. |
* (12036A) was used on 83-90 models. | * (12036A) was used on 1983-1990 models. |
* Sold for use with outer separator plate (26493-75A) | * Sold for use with outer separator plate (26493-75A) |
* It has a metal outside band with bonded rubber inside. | * It has a metal outside band with bonded rubber inside. |
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| (12036) 77-82 Outer plate seal. (12036A) 83-85 Outer plate seal. ((photos by NHPS of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2072076)) || 12036 and 12036A comparison ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | | (12036) 77-82 Outer plate seal. (12036A) 83-85 Outer plate seal. ((photos by NHPS of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/195683-77-oil-pump-rebuild?t=2072076)) || 12036 and 12036A comparison ((photo by Hippysmack)) | |
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| Outer seal (12036) installed ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Outer seal (12036A) installed ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Outer seal (12036A) installed position on 86 pump. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | | Outer seal (12036) installed ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Outer seal (12036A) installed ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Outer seal (12036A) installed position on 86 pump. ((photo by Hippysmack)) | |
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====== Spring Washer ====== | ====== Spring Washer ====== |
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| 77-E83 return (26491-75) and feed (26492-75) gerotors ((photos by Hippysmack)) || | | 77-E83 return (26491-75) and feed (26492-75) gerotors ((photos by Hippysmack)) || |
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===== Late 1983 oil pump assembly design modification ===== | ===== Late 1983 oil pump assembly design modification ===== |
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|77-E83 gerotors. \\ Chamfered outside gear edges. ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071153&page=3))|L83-85 gerotors. \\ Straight cut outside gear edges. ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071153&page=3)) | | |77-E83 gerotors. \\ Chamfered outside gear edges. ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/194881-let-s-study-the-77-85-oil-pump-parts-and-changes-and-when/page3?t=2071153&page=3))|L83-85 gerotors. \\ Straight cut outside gear edges. ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/194881-let-s-study-the-77-85-oil-pump-parts-and-changes-and-when/page3?t=2071153&page=3)) | |
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===== Feed Gears ===== | ===== Feed Gears ===== |
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| 77-E83 feed gerotors installed position ((photo by Hippysmack)) | | | 77-E83 feed gerotors installed position ((photo by Hippysmack)) | |
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===== L83-85 ===== | ===== L83-85 ===== |
(26492-83) Straight cut feed gerotors. | (26492-83) Straight cut feed gerotors. |
Check valve (26435-76A) was an upgrade in L77 and used on all L77-85 models. \\ | Check valve (26435-76A) was an upgrade in L77 and used on all L77-85 models. \\ |
It has an arrow on the side for proper installation pointing up with FC to the bottom left of the arrow. \\ | It has an arrow on the side for proper installation pointing up with FC to the bottom left of the arrow. \\ |
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* The oil pump check valve plays a role in the operation of the oil pressure switch. | * The oil pump check valve plays a role in the operation of the oil pressure switch. |
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| 26435-76A check valve ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071153&page=2)) | With the O-ring removed, you can see the crimped 2-piece body design ((photos by Hippysmack)) || | | 26435-76A check valve ((photo by DirtyCory of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/194881-let-s-study-the-77-85-oil-pump-parts-and-changes-and-when/page2?t=2071153&page=2)) | With the O-ring removed, you can see the crimped 2-piece body design ((photos by Hippysmack)) || |
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| The check valve sits inside the bore in the pump body as shown. Installed position (R)((photo by Hippysmack)) || | | The check valve sits inside the bore in the pump body as shown. Installed position (R)((photo by Hippysmack)) || |
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===== In search of a comparable check valve ===== | ===== In search of a comparable check valve ===== |
This one has a back-up O-ring on the valve. \\ | This one has a back-up O-ring on the valve. \\ |
That link came from this XLF thread: \\ | That link came from this XLF thread: \\ |
[[http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1979566&highlight=gerotor&page=2]] | [[https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/184257-oil-pump-porn/page2?t=1979566&highlight=gerotor&page=2]] |
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====== Oil Pressure Switch ====== | ====== Oil Pressure Switch ====== |
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| Oil pressure switch (26554-77) ((photos by Hippysmack of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2071153&page=8)) ||| | | Oil pressure switch (26554-77) ((photos by Hippysmack of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/194881-let-s-study-the-77-85-oil-pump-parts-and-changes-and-when/page8?t=2071153&page=8)) ||| |
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| Oil pressure switch mounted to the oil pump ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Rubber boot pulled over the oil pressure switch ((photo by ironheadjunkie of the XLFORUM http://xlforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1400314&page=2)) | | | Oil pressure switch mounted to the oil pump ((photo by Hippysmack)) | Rubber boot pulled over the oil pressure switch ((photo by ironheadjunkie of the XLFORUM https://www.xlforum.net/forum/sportster-motorcycle-forum/sportster-motorcycle-era-specific-and-model-specific/ironhead-sportster-motorcycle-talk-1957-1985/131846-oil-line-routing/page2?t=1400314&page=2)) | |
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